Over the past year, universities, philanthropy, non-profits, corporations and more across the country dismantled DEI programs under the fear that federal support or favors could be at risk. But federal courts have since pushed back and the legal justification behind most of those decisions has collapsed.

Join Dr. Julian Vasquez Heilig and Dr. John C. Turner on The Doc Chat Show as they examine what really happened, what the courts decided, and the question institutions now face: if DEI is not illegal, what will universities et al. do next?

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Dr. Julian Vasquez Heilig is a nationally recognized scholar of education policy, leadership, and equity and a professor of educational leadership. His research and commentary is widely cited in major media outlets including The New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, USA Today, Associated Press, and Education Week. Dr. Vasquez Heilig is a frequent media commentator who has appeared on major local and national television and radio outlets such as Democracy Now!, MSNBC, Al Jazeera, ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, PBS, NPR, Univision, and LatinoUSA. In addition to television and print media, he has been featured on 17 national podcasts and radio programs. He also co-hosted the Truth For America Podcast, focused on Teach For America. He writes about education policy, leadership, and democracy, and he welcomes opportunities to join podcasts and media conversations on these issues.